I got the seeds from a GCS member and kept them for sometime. Now I have the fence space to grow them and germinated all the eight seeds given. During the growing process, three seedlings were attacked by snails and slugs and they ate up the three seedlings even though I did sprinkle some snail pellets. The lucky five seedlings managed to survive to climb up the strings on the trellis. Now I wait big time for the vines to mature. Let see how they grow.